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October 16, 2011 - Lindsay International Web Site Updated to Permit Processing of New DNA Project Participants

The necessary modifications have been made to this web site to permit the continuation of the International Lindsay Surname DNA Project.  I encourage you to go to the DNA Project and read the modified "General Guidelines", the "Specific Rules of Participation" and the "Register to Participate" associated with this Project.

I also strongly encourage all Lindsays (however spelt) around the world ... if your Lindsay lineage has not already been DNA tested, find a living male, representing your specific Lindsay lineage and convince him to establish the DNA haplotype for your Lindsay lineage.

Ron Lindsay
Project Administrator
International Lindsay Surname DNA Project

August 22, 2011 - Transition of the International Lindsay Surname DNA Project - Selection of a New DNA Test Facility

My purpose in this post is to advise those concerned of the decision in establishing a new laboratory facility to support the International Lindsay Surname DNA Project.  

For those not previously aware, our former London-based laboratory, DNA Heritage, went out of business April 19, 2011.  The testing with DNA Heritage ended with DNA participant L0224.  Since that time the International Lindsay Surname DNA Project has not been accepting any new participant.  

For many reasons, I would truly have liked for the International Lindsay Surname DNA Project to have become a user of the services of Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) of Houston, Texas. However, due to business constraints at FTDNA, they were only able to offer the International Lindsay Surname DNA Project their 37-marker solution at a cost of $149.00 USD plus additional costs for the other eleven markers.  For your information, FTDNA’s 37-marker offering provides only thirty-two (32) markers that could be compared to our established slate of 43 markers.  Custom ordering of the additional eleven markers (32 + 11 =43) at FTDNA would cost an additional $79.20 for a total cost of $228.20 to get our comparable 43 markers at FTDNA.  

After ten years and a Project of 225 members, the International Lindsay Surname DNA Project has too many participants with the 43 Y-chromosome STR marker panel to start anew with the FTDNA 37 markers (32 markers to compare to our current 43). To get the 43 comparable markers from FTDNA would cost our Lindsay participants too much of a premium and I believe would negatively impact participation in the International Lindsay Surname DNA Project.  

As some of you will recall, our DNA test laboratory prior to DNA Heritage, was Relative Genetics.  Relative Genetics sold their retail DNA business to Ancestry.com on July 15, 2007.  Ancestry.com is still, today, in the DNA testing business and have offered to provide the International Lindsay Surname DNA Project with our same 43 markers at a 20% discount off their retail price.  The discounted price will be $143.20 USD for new participants of the International Lindsay Surname DNA Project for our same 43 Y-chromosome markers.  

Thus as soon as I can revise the instructional web pages at the Lindsay International web site and more specifically an update to the International Lindsay Surname DNA Project web pages, we will proceed with our DNA testing at Ancestry.com.  The participative process will change significantly from the one we have used for the past ten years.  I will provide another post to this NEWS section as soon as the web site update is complete.  

Together, we have made some great strides in the past 10-12 years in uncovering some of the many mysteries and brick walls surrounding our varied Lindsay (however spelt) genealogies by using DNA testing as a collaborative genetic-genealogy tool.  There is much yet to be learned and I hope to be a part of the discovery process with you.

Ron Lindsay
Administrator, International Lindsay Surname DNA Project

April 21, 2011 - Demise of the Laboratory Interface, DNA Heritage, Supporting the International Lindsay Surname DNA Project

As many of you are aware the International Lindsay Surname DNA Project was required, on July 15, 2007, to find a new source for our slate of 43 Y-Chromosome STR markers, that we had been using for six years, when Relative Genetics, our testing laboratory at the time, sold its retail business to Ancestry.com.  The new laboratory selected in July 2007 was London-based DNA Heritage, simply because they provided access to the same 43 STR marker set that we had been previously using.

The founders of DNA Heritage, on April 19, 2011, have now declared they are no longer a viable business and have in essence closed their doors.  The DNA Heritage web site message April 19, 2011 and their letter to customers on April 20, 2011 are posted below for your reading.

Obviously the International Lindsay Surname DNA Project will not be processing any new DNA samples until such time we have decided upon a new and appropriate laboratory for our follow-on testing.   I will keep you posted at this web site as I progress through what is needed in order for our surname DNA Project to continue. 

My best regards.

Ron Lindsay, Founder and Administrator
International Lindsay Surname DNA Projec

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April 20, 2011  

Dear Customers,

 

Today we have signed an agreement with Family Tree DNA to transfer the DNA Heritage database, and also the Ybase domain, site and database.  In a few weeks time, the DNA Heritage domain will also be transferred.

 

Customers within the DNA Heritage database will be able to opt-in to be uploaded into the FTDNA database.  Family Tree DNA will organize this opt-in process.  New orders can then later be taken through Family Tree DNA.  Project Funds for Surname Projects will remain intact in the transfer.

 

In recent months sales have lowered which impacts the rate at which we can cover the costs of the lab process.  With no immediate rise in sales, this became unsustainable so we started the process of finding a suitable company that could a) absorb the customer database and b) continue testing at the same markers.  The number of companies that are able to do this is limited but we hope that our past customers will be happy with the transfer.

 

Because of the income from the sale of assets, testing will resume at our current labs and we shall complete all those in process, and also for those that have pre-paid.

 

Customer tests will be handled thus:

 

If we have your sample and it is paid for, then we shall get results out to you as soon as is possible.  This means that YSTR samples will be about 3 and a half weeks or less, and mtDNA samples about 5 and a half weeks or less.

 

If you have pre-paid and are about to return your sample kit, then please do as we will test it.

 

If you have pre-paid and not yet received a kit, please email us so that we can send a fresh kit out.

 

We have received recent orders but we haven't yet sent out kits for.  We shall contact these individuals to provide the option of testing.

 

If we have had your DNA sample for less than 6 months, we still have your DNA.  However, this won't be transferred over to Family Tree DNA and will be discarded after the 6 month period.

 

As before, all testing will be through Sorenson Genomics (YSTR tests) and/or Alpha Bioabs (mtDNA) with which we have had a relationship for several years. 

 

On a personal note, it will be good to move on from something that I started back in 2002.  It was then a nascent field, a period of rapid development, and an exciting time to be pushing forward the understanding of DNA testing within the public realm.  I've always enjoyed the fact that, through DNA, people are able to form connections with their kin, wherever in the world they may be.  I also love that the results of the tests often challenge a person's sense of history and perception of themselves as they see that they are linked to a much bigger family tree encompassing every corner of the globe.

 

It's been a fascinating journey and I wish you all well.  

Sincerely,
Alastair Greenshields
Principal
DNA Heritage

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April 19, 2011

As of April 19 2011, DNA Heritage has ceased its operations and is in the process of transferring the domains DNAHeritage.com and Ybase.org to Family Tree DNA.

All the tests in progress will be processed by our current lab and the results will be delivered to our customers.

In order to ensure the continuity of the existing surname projects Family Tree DNA will study the best options to integrate our customers' results into their database.

Once Family Tree DNA decides on the option(s), our customers will be given the opportunity to opt-in to their database.

 

June 20, 2010 - $129.00 USD Offer For Our High-Resolution 43-Marker Test

DNA Heritage announced that their special offer ended at midnight on June 20, 2010!  The price is now back to the original $149.00 USD for the high-resolution 43-marker test.

May 24, 2010 - $129.00 USD Offer For Our High-Resolution 43-Marker Test

DNA Heritage has today extended a limited-time offer to participants in the International Lindsay Surname DNA Project to provide the 43-marker test for $129.00 USD.  The on-going price has been $149.00 USD and will revert to that price after this offer expires.  The expiration date of this offer has not been defined.  This is the best price we have ever been able to offer for those who wish to define the Y-chromosome haplotype of their specific Lindsay/Lindsey/Lindesay/Linzey surname.  Participants must be males bearing the Lindsay (how ever spelt) surname at birth.  If you are interested, please click on Registration Page and provide the requested information to get the test process underway.

In order to obtain this special pricing, your DNA sample must be returned to me in time to add your exclusive L# and postmark the DNA sample to the laboratory before they decide to discontinue this special offer of $129.00 USD for the 43-marker test.

March 16, 2010 - 11th Round of Testing Update

Twenty-three additional participants have been added to the Lindsay Surname Haplotype Database.  The analysis of our findings for the combined 1st thru 11th Rounds of testing of the Lindsay Surname DNA Project is found at the Lindsay Surname Haplotype Database  and in the individual Lindsay DNA Groups 1 thru 17 web pages.  

We are now a database of 205 Lindsay* participants.

March 16, 2010 - Standardizing the Values For Y-Chromosome Marker Y-GATA-H4.1

As of October 1, 2009, our laboratory, DNA Heritage, in compliance with National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) standards, changed their method of accounting for the allele value of Y-chromosome marker, Y-GATA-H4.1.   All the previous allele values, previously defined by the DNA Heritage laboratory, for marker Y-GATA-H4.1, was reduced by ten (-10).  The March 16, 2010 web site update for the International Lindsay Surname DNA Project incorporated this change.  Since it was applied equally to all 205 of the Lindsay DNA participants, there will be no change in previously defined DNA Group relationships.

January 25, 2010 - The Lindsay Surname One-Name Study Initiated

The Lindsay Surname One-Name Study was registered with the London-based Guild of One-Name Studies, 25 January 2010.  Click on Lindsay One-Name Study to see the profile of this Study hosted at the Guild's web site.

June 10, 2009 - Price Reduction in Y-Chromosome DNA Testing

There has been a 21% pricing reduction from our laboratory, DNA Heritage, for the high resolution 43 Y-chromosome marker test that pertains to the Lindsay Surname DNA Project.  The price of the 43 Y-chromosome marker test has been reduced from $189.00 USD to $149.00 USD.  If you wish to participate in this historic family Project, proceed to the Registration Process.   There has never been a better time to learn more about your Lindsay (how ever spelled) lineage.  We are currently a database of 190 participants from around the world.

November 10, 2008 - 10th Round of Testing Update

Twenty-seven additional participants have been added to the Lindsay Surname Haplotype Database.  The analysis of our findings for the combined 1st thru 10th Rounds of testing of the Lindsay Surname DNA Project is found at the Lindsay Surname Haplotype Database  and in the individual Lindsay DNA Groups 1 thru 17 web pages.  

We are now a database of 182 participants.

October 4, 2007 - 9th Round of Testing Update

Twenty-four additional participants have been added to the Lindsay Surname Haplotype Database.  The analysis of our findings for the combined 1st thru 9th Rounds of testing of the Lindsay Surname DNA Project is found at the Lindsay Surname Haplotype Database  and in the individual Lindsay DNA Groups 1 thru 15 web pages.  

We are now a database of 155 participants.

July 6, 2007 - The Gathering 2009

  • The Gathering 2009

  • Place: Holyrood Park, Edinburgh, Scotland

  • Date: July 25 thru 26, 2009 

  • "The Gathering 2009" is supported by the Standing Council of Scottish Chiefs, and it is hoped that all clan associations will attend.  The Gathering 2009 will take the form of an international clan gathering and the largest highland games ever held in Scotland, and will be one of the key events of Homecoming Scotland. 

    The Gathering 2009 Ltd has opened offices in Edinburgh, and is in the early stages of planning and designing the event.  For more details please visit  http://www.thegathering2009.com 

    This would be a grand occasion for Lindsays/Lindseys/Lindesays from around the world to get together and I hope to see you there.

    January 30, 2007 - 8th Round of Testing Update

    Fifteen additional participants have been added to the Lindsay Surname Haplotype Database.  The analysis of our findings for the combined 1st thru 8th Rounds of testing of the Lindsay Surname DNA Project is found at the Lindsay Surname Haplotype Database  and in the individual Lindsay DNA Groups 1 thru 13 web pages.  

    We are now a database of 131 participants.

    August 18, 2006 - 7th Round of Testing Update

    Eleven additional participants have been added to the Lindsay Surname Haplotype Database.  The analysis of our findings for the combined 1st thru 7th Rounds of testing of the Lindsay Surname DNA Project is found at the Lindsay Surname Haplotype Database  and in the individual Lindsay DNA Groups 1 thru 13 web pages.  

    We are now a database of 116 participants.

    February 5, 2006 - Google Ads

    The annual out-of-pocket cost for me to maintain the Lindsay International web site and the International Lindsay Surname DNA Project has grown significantly.  It has reached a level that requires me now to seek subsidies to help defray these costs if possible in order to maintain the features enjoyed at this web site by the international Lindsay community.  Thus, as you can see, with the February 5, 2006 update, I have added Google Ads to several pages.  This will be a trial to see if this action produces effects that are unacceptable to any of us.  I will appreciate your feedback, either positive or negative.  Send a note to Ron Lindsay, the site webmaster.

    February 5, 2006 - 6th Round of Testing Update

    Fifteen additional participants have been added to the Lindsay Surname Haplotype Database.  The analysis of our findings for the combined 1st thru 6th Rounds of testing of the Lindsay Surname DNA Project is found at the Lindsay Surname Haplotype Database  and in the individual Lindsay DNA Groups 1 thru 13 web pages.  

    We are now a database of 106 participants.

    April 25, 2005 - 5th Round of Testing Update

    Twenty-nine additional participants have been added to the Lindsay Surname Haplotype Database.  The analysis of our findings for the combined 1st thru 5th Rounds of testing of the Lindsay Surname DNA Project is found at the Lindsay Surname Haplotype Database  and in the individual Lindsay DNA Groups 1 thru 12 web pages.  

    We are now a database of 91 participants.

    August 30, 2003 - 4th Round of Testing Update

    Twelve additional participants have been added to the Lindsay Surname Haplotype Database.  The analysis of our findings for the combined 1st thru 4th Rounds of testing of the Lindsay Surname DNA Project is found at the Lindsay Surname Haplotype Database  and in the combined Lindsay DNA Groupings (1 thru 9) pages.  

    We are now a database of 62 participants.

    February 26, 2003 - Revised Lindsay Surname Haplotype Database Posted

    The Lindsay Surname Haplotype Database, composed of the participants from the combined 1st , 2nd and 3rd Rounds of testing (50 participants) of the Lindsay Surname DNA Project, was published today to the web site for peer review, analysis and comment by the global Lindsay (how ever spelled) community.  View this new information at the Lindsay Surname Haplotype Database found under the Lindsay Surname DNA Project Main Menu item above. 

    October 14, 2002 - Revised Lindsay Surname Haplotype Database Posted

    The Lindsay Surname Haplotype Database, composed of the combined 1st and 2nd Rounds of testing (34 participants) of the Lindsay Surname DNA Project, was published today.  View this new information at the Lindsay Surname Haplotype Database.

    June 11, 2002 - Lindsay DNA Database Published

    The first version of the Lindsay DNA database, representing the first 21 participants in the Lindsay Surname DNA Project, has been published at this web site.  The Lindsay Surname Haplotype Database and the Lindsay Haplotype Conclusions  are the two pages you want to see.

    March 5, 2002 - Registration Opens For Second Round of Testing

    Due to the stated interest by additional candidates, the Lindsay Surname DNA Project will start immediately to accept registration for the second round of testing for new participants.  If you wish to participate in the second round of testing for the Lindsay Surname DNA Project go to http://www.clanlindsay.com/sign_up_form.htm  and submit the on-line Sign Up Form, followed by a summary of your Lindsay (how ever spelled) paternal lineage.  

    Pricing will remain the same as was paid by the participants of the first round group.  Registration will continue for the second round until we get an additional 15-20 new participants.

    After reviewing the information provided at the Lindsay International web site  http://www.clanlindsay.com/dna_project.htm , if potential participants have additional questions they can contact the Project Coordinator, Ron Lindsay .

    March 4, 2002 - DNA Collection Process Begins For First Round

    The DNA collection process has begun for the first round of testing.  DNA sample kits were mailed today to all participants of the Lindsay Surname DNA Project.  There are twenty one (21) participants in this first round of testing.  From the various spellings of the surname, the Project is currently composed of 1- Lindesay, 12- Lindsay, 6-Lindsey and 2-Linzee.

    February 4, 2002 - Lindsay DNA Project Changes Test Laboratory

    Due to some recent significant changes in the DNA testing service provider industry, the Lindsay Surname DNA Project has found it necessary to make a change in the previously announced laboratory selected to provide its DNA testing.  See the full details at  http://www.clanlindsay.com/project_status_reports.htm  .

    January 27, 2002 - Cutoff Date For DNA Project Sign-Up Established

    The Lindsay Surname DNA Project has reached the stage where we must establish a cutoff date for participation in the Project. This is required in order to properly carry out the necessary administrative activities associated with the Project.

    The cutoff date for initiation of the Sign-Up Form and submitting the required three generations of Lindsay (how ever spelled) lineage is Friday, February 22, 2002.

    Anyone submitting a Sign-Up Form after that date will be included in the next round of testing. At this time it has not been determined if there will be a second round of testing. It will depend solely upon the level of interest and a large enough group to justify the effort.

    If you plan to participate in the Lindsay Surname DNA Project, please go to  http://www.clanlindsay.com/sign_up_form.htm  and submit the Sign-Up Form as soon as possible, followed shortly with your genealogical information.

    If a potential participant has additional questions that are not answered in this status report or at the Lindsay International web site, please contact the Project Coordinator

    December 11, 2001 - Lindsay Surname DNA Project Selects Testing Laboratory

    The Lindsay Surname DNA Project has selected the testing laboratory to provide Lindsay participants with their Y-Chromosome DNA testing.  Read the full details regarding the laboratory of choice along with the description of the Phase I and Phase II test plans found at  http://www.clanlindsay.com/project_status_reports.htm

    August 8, 2001 - Linzee Family Association Announcement

    [ The Lindsay International web site normally will not be used to post items for sale. However due to the significant genealogical nature of the following announcement and also its potential value to Lindsays (how ever spelled) worldwide, an exception is being made. ]

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    The Linzee Family Association of America, Inc. (a non-profit organization incorporated in the state of Massachusetts) wishes to advise that it intends to publish a second edition of the two volume set of genealogical works entitled: The History of the Linzee Family and the Limesi, Lindsay, Lindsey, Etc. Families,  authored by John William Linzee, Jr., B.S., B.A.

    The set was originally published privately by the Fort Hill Press of Boston Massachusetts in 1917 for the author John William Linzee, Jr.  At that time many sets were distributed to interested family members, genealogical societies on both sides of the Atlantic, many public libraries, the College of Arms in London and the Library of Congress, Washington, D.C..

    With the passage of time, it has become clear that since 1917, many newly interested individuals, both Linzee descendants and others, warrant a second printing of the two-volume set.

    The title page of Volume I reads: The Lindeseie and Limesi Families of Great Britain, with the subtitle Including The Probates At Somerset House, London, England of All Spellings Of The Name Lindeseie From 1300 - 1800. This volume gives an extensive treatise on the origin and history of the surname Lindsay, including virtually all of its spelling variations. Volume I is divided into four chapters. Chapter I covers the ancient records of Lindeseie and Limesi in Great Britain. Chapter II covers the ancient records of Lindsay in Scotland and England. Chapter III treats general compilations of the ancient records of the Limesi Family, the Lindeseie Family and the Lindsays of Scotland. The final Chapter IV lists the probates referred in the subtitle above.

    The title page of Volume II reads: The Linzee Family of Great Britain and the United States of America and Allied Families of Penfold, Hood, Amory, Tilden, Hunt, Browne, Wooldridge, Evans.  It is a bit more specific in that it chronicles the descendants of the author’s earliest known Linzee ancestor, Thomas Linzee who died November 1687 and was buried in the St. Mary’s Church cemetery in Kingston, Portsea, Hants, England.  Starting with Thomas Linzee and his wife Elizabeth (Hill) Linzee, the author tracks all their descendants up to the time of printing in 1917.

    Also included in Volume II, amongst the numerous descendants, are many other family names of note who are associated with the Linzee genealogy through marriage; such families as Hood, Penfold, Pasco, Amory, Tilden, Browne, Prescott, Parker, Warick, Hunt and others. The descendants made their homes around the world including such diverse locations as New Zealand, Australia, India, South Africa, the Americas, and of course Europe and the British Isles.

    As a guide, the Linzee Family Association anticipates the cost of the book reprint to be as follows.  In any event the prices below must be confirmed by the Linzee Family Association.

    Volumes I & II (as a set)     soft cover  $  149.00 USD plus shipping

    Volumes I & II (as a set)     hard cover  $249.00 USD plus shipping

    Outside its own membership, the Linzee Family Association Inc. is making an attempt to ensure that they can satisfy the needs of the global Clan Lindsay (how ever spelled) as well as the worldwide genealogical community with their planned reprint. Although the reprint date has not yet been established, if you have an interest in obtaining one or more of these volumes, you should immediately send the Linzee Family Association of America, Inc an e-mail message indicating the desired volume or volumes and the binding (soft or hard cover) of your choice. Someone from the Linzee Family Association will respond to your inquiry. The Linzee Family Association Inc. can be reached at the following e-mail address.

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    Mr. J. Linzee Whittaker, President of the Linzee Family Association of America, Inc, made this announcement material available.

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    *We have establish that the use of the Lindsay surname, throughout this web site, implies all the accepted spellings of the surname found on the "Orthography" page of this web site.  

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