Merged R1b DNA Groups
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Merger of DNA Groups 2, 3, 4, 8, 9, 10, 11, 13 & 16 Tested or Estimated to be R1b Haplogroup

With the update from the 11th round of testing, we find the grouping of Lindsays/Lindseys, belonging to the R1b haplogroup, continues to account for 55% of the Project total.  This represents 113 participants out of the current 205 Project total.

Click on DNA Data Spreadsheet to view the DNA marker values for the current participants of Merged R1b DNA Groups 2, 3, 4, 8, 9, 10, 11, 13 and 16.  Twenty-three of the 113 R1bs are currently not assigned to any one of the DNA Groupings.

It has become apparent that the high-resolution, expanded 43 markers is providing the much needed refinement between the various Lindsay/Lindsey lineages around the world.

It becomes very interesting to see the striking similarities (observe color coding) in the DNA profiles of the nine DNA Groups designated as 2, 3, 4, 8, 9, 10, 11 & 13.  It also appears that the known earliest ancestors for most of these participants, originated in Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina and Tennessee.

Based on what is currently known about mutation rates, the only thing to conclude from this exercise is that the eight R1b DNA Groups 2, 3, 4, 8, 9, 10, 11, 13 and 16 definitely share a common ancestor at some point, but some of them likely well before surnames were in common use.

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This merged grouping on this web page excludes the current DNA Groups 1, 5, 6, 7, 12, 14, 15 and 17 found in the composite Lindsay Haplotype Database, which includes haplogroups I1a, I1b, E3b, G & J2.

It is currently unproven but believed that DNA Group 1 is descended from Thomas Lindsay of Kings Wark ( ? - 1607) of Leith, Scotland.   There are also those who believe, without any proof, that Thomas Lindsay of Kings Wark is descended from the Lindsays of the Byres in Scotland.

The European geographic origin for the distinctive DNA haplotype of the participants of DNA Group 5 has not yet been determined.

DNA Group 6 is well defined by two known cousins as the Linzees of Hants, England and most likely are descended from an English ancestor, with most likely no biological connection to the Scottish Lindsays/Lindseys.

Many of the DNA Group 7 participants are now understood to be descended from progenitors of the McCleisich surname.  The McCleisichs, of the Isle of Jura, are believed to have taken the Lindsay surname in the early 1700s.  See the details at the DNA Group 7 web page.

DNA Group 12 is evolving as the Lindsays of Rockingham County, NC and Virginia.  There is an inclination to relate DNA Group 12 as descendants of Sir Jerome Lindsay of Annatland, Scotland, but it is currently based solely on circumstantial evidence and conjecture.  However it is my belief that if DNA Group 1 is descended from Thomas Lindsay of Kings Wark and if DNA Group 12 is descended from Sir Jerome Lindsay of Annatland, then we would expect to see a closer match of the DNA profiles of DNA Group 1 with the DNA profiles of DNA Group 12.  I make this statement since Sir Jerome Lindsay of Annatland has a common ancestor with the Lindsays of the Byres. On the other hand, both DNA Groups 1 & 12 could be descended as they perceive, but Thomas Lindsay of Kings Wark may not be related to the Lindsays of the Byres.

  • This web page was initially posted: April 25, 2005

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