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International Lindsay DNA Group 9

"Albemarle Lindseys of North Carolina"

In an attempt to establish a basic geography for this composite group of Lindsays/Lindseys, DNA Group 9 will be henceforth referred to as the "Albemarle Lindseys of North Carolina" until revised.

The DNA Group 9 is currently a group of nine (9) participants.

Click on DNA Data Spreadsheet to view the DNA marker values for the current participants of DNA Group 9.

Participants L0016 and L0074 have only one mismatching marker out of 43 markers.  Participant L0107 follows closely to L0074 with only one mismatching marker and with L0016 with two mismatching markers.  These three individuals share a Most Recent Common Ancestor somewhere in the very near-term past.

Of significance here is the fact that Participant  L0041 is a proven descendant from the well documented Lindsey lineage that has been frequently referred to as the "Albemarle Lindseys of North Carolina".  It remains to be seen how far the profile/haplotype of participant L0041 has mutated from the "founders" of this Lindsey lineage.  It is becoming apparent that the MRCA for this grouping goes far beyond the Lindseys of Albemarle, North Carolina.   Nonetheless,  we will continue to factor the mismatches for DNA Group 9 participants from the profile/haplotype of participant L0041, until such time we can arrive at a more representative modal haplotype for DNA Group 9.

Participant L0080 has a perfect match (43 out of 43 markers) with participant L0058.  Based on the genealogical record (names & geographies) and the perfect DNA match, it would appear that the ancestor, Timothy Lindsay (1814-1863) of participant L0058 and the ancestor, Jacob Riley Lindsay (1813-1897) of participant L0080, could be brothers.  We do not currently know the name of the father (s) of Timothy & Jacob Riley Lindsay.  It is believed that Timothy & Jacob Lindsay had brothers named George and Larkin Lindsey (1813-1885).  Hopefully these participants will pursue this possibility.

Participant L0082 has one (1) mismatching marker with participant L0013, based on the original 26 markers.  Based on the written genealogical records, it would appear that John Lindsay, born ca 1762 New York and died in 1846 in Canada, is the Most Recent Common Ancestor (MRCA) for participants L0013 & L0082.  Neither of these participants have tested for the 43 markers.

The name of the Most Recent Common Ancestor (MRCA) for many of these Lindsay/Lindsey lineages has not yet been proven, but the participants are currently researching the data for possible merge points.

If you have information, accompanied by the appropriate citations, that demonstrate how any of the Lindsay/Lindsey lineages of DNA Group 9 are connected, please contact Ron Lindsay 

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Reference Notes

1. Proper Analysis of DYS389-1 & DYS389-2 Marker Mutations.

In analyzing the marker values in the table representing this DNA Group, it is important to remember the following in your analysis of loci DYS389-1 and DYS389-2 matches and mismatches.

1. The loci DYS389-1 and DYS389-2 are two legitimate lengths of DNA but move in tandem.
2. DYS389-1 refers to the length of only one portion of the DYS389 marker.
3. DYS389-2 refers to the total length of the DYS389 marker. Therefore, when there is a one step mutation at DYS389-1, it will also appear to be in DYS389-2.
4. When comparing one individual to another, if the values for two individuals differ by one repeat at DYS389-1, that represents a one-step mismatch.
5. If the values for the same two individuals differ also by one repeat at DYS389-2, then it should only be counted as one combined mutation for DYS389-1 & DYS389-2.
6. If the marker values for two individuals differ by one repeat mismatch at DYS389-1 and a two repeat mismatch at DYS389-2, then it should be counted as two separate mismatches or mutations.
7. There is another and potentially even more confusing situation that could occur at marker DYS389. If the marker values for two individuals differ by one repeat mismatch at DYS389-1 and then a perfect match at DYS389-2 for these same two individuals. This should be counted as two separate marker mismatches since the value mismatch at DYS389-1 was offset by a mutation in the opposite "direction" from the value found at DYS389-2 and appears to cancel out the mutation that occurred at DYS389-1.
8. However, keep in mind there can be a mutation at DYS389-2 that will not affect the length found at DYS389-1.

End of Reference Notes

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