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International Lindsay* DNA Group 8

"Lindseys of Rutherford County, NC & Scotland"

The defining term "Lindseys of Rutherford County, NC & Scotland" is used in an attempt to establish a basic geography for the founders of the composite DNA Group 8.

Margaret Lindsey Smith is the Group Administrator for DNA Group 8 and can be reached via e-mail by clicking on Margaret L. Smith.  Margaret is a very knowledgeable researcher for this grouping of Lindseys and should be your first contact for questions pertaining to DNA Group 8 genealogy and the determination of the Most Recent Common Ancestors (MRCA).  The Lindsey lineage of Margaret L. Smith is represented by DNA Group 8 participant L0048.  If you are a member of or related to DNA Group 8, you might wish to contact Margaret L. Smith to see if she wishes to add your name to the private,  password protected web site that she has established for DNA Group 8 "cousins".

The DNA Group 8 is currently composed of eighteen (18) participants. 

Click on DNA Data Spreadsheet to see the DNA marker values for the current participants of DNA Group 8.

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After the 43-marker upgrade testing, participant L0065 was removed from DNA Group 8 due to his results now exceeding the maximum of four mismatching markers.

At this point in the analysis, it has been determined through the traditional paper trail, that the MRCA for participants L0015 (deceased 2002) & L0073 is Carleton Lindsey (ca 1760-1825).  Participants L0015 (deceased) and L0073 are a perfect 26 out of 26 marker match.  In the interest to see how they would match up at the current 43 markers, the son of L0015, L0103, has been tested for the 43 markers.  In the expanded 43-marker testing, L0073 and L0103 have one miss-matching marker, which further substantiates their descent from a common ancestor.

It would also appear that the MRCA for participants L0015, L0103, L0073 and L0048 is the father of Carleton and Micajah Lindsey.  Participant L0015 believed that Caleb Lindsey is the father of his Carleton Lindsey.  Participant L0048 believes that James William Lindsey (b. ca 1729, d. 1800 Rutherford County, North Carolina), who married Mary Carleton, is the father of Micajah and Carleton Lindsey.  L0048 has 3 mismatching markers with L0073 and two mismatching markers with L0103.

Participants L0162 and L0169 are believed to share Caleb Lindsey (ca 1725 - 1784 Chatham County, NC), married to Rosanna Martin, as a Most Recent Common ancestor (MRCA) via the sons; James Lindsey (1755 - 1838 Trigg Co., Kentucky), married to Delilah Hodgson Brewer and John Lindsey (ca 1748 - 1793 Orange Co., NC), married to Mary Robinson.

If you have information, accompanied by the appropriate citations, that demonstrate how any one of these Lindsey lineages in DNA Group 8 are connected, please contact Margaret L. Smith, Administrator, DNA Group 8.

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Reference Notes

1. Proper Analysis of DYS389-1 & DYS389-2 Marker Mutations.

In analyzing the marker values in the table representing this DNA Group, it is important to remember the following in your analysis of loci DYS389-1 and DYS389-2 matches and mismatches.

1. The loci DYS389-1 and DYS389-2 are two legitimate lengths of DNA but move in tandem.
2. DYS389-1 refers to the length of only one portion of the DYS389 marker.
3. DYS389-2 refers to the total length of the DYS389 marker. Therefore, when there is a one step mutation at DYS389-1, it will also appear to be in DYS389-2.
4. When comparing one individual to another, if the values for two individuals differ by one repeat at DYS389-1, that represents a one-step mismatch.
5. If the values for the same two individuals differ also by one repeat at DYS389-2, then it should only be counted as one combined mutation for DYS389-1 & DYS389-2.
6. If the marker values for two individuals differ by one repeat mismatch at DYS389-1 and a two repeat mismatch at DYS389-2, then it should be counted as two separate mismatches or mutations.
7. There is another and potentially even more confusing situation that could occur at marker DYS389. If the marker values for two individuals differ by one repeat mismatch at DYS389-1 and then a perfect match at DYS389-2 for these same two individuals. This should be counted as two separate marker mismatches since the value mismatch at DYS389-1 was offset by a mutation in the opposite "direction" from the value found at DYS389-2 and appears to cancel out the mutation that occurred at DYS389-1.
8. However, keep in mind there can be a mutation at DYS389-2 that will not affect the length found at DYS389-1.

End of Reference Notes

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Please address your DNA Group 8 questions and comments to the DNA Group 8 Administrator Margaret L. Smith

• This web page was initially posted: October 14, 2002

• This web page was last edited: August 22, 2011

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